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C.S.M.P. Digest             Fri, 17 Apr 92       Volume 1 : Issue 52

Today's Topics:

    Wild Magic
    No current port vs. CopyBits?
    free-ware or Shair-ware Programing Language
    A/UX irc client crashes on call to malloc()
    Invisible files
    Completion routines & A5
    pict -> macbinary resource fork on unix
    Official Chocolate of Mac Programming
    File Labels
    Is there X11, NFS, TCP for the MacOS?


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From: [e-mail] (John Martellaro)
Subject: Wild Magic
Date: 6 Mar 92 20:02:57 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Energy Systems

I just downloaded Wild Magic from ftp.apple.com, but
can't get it to operate.  If the authors see this, I need
a little help.   I did the obvious things.  Made sure
Wild Magic control panel was on.  Disabled all inits
except for EM manager, Quicktime, and Wild Magic.
(Called Apple Technical Information Source.  They could not help
except to suggest that After Dark is a known conflict.)
Using Mac IIci, System 7.0.1 (tuned), virtual on.  Tried
to Copy  a movie from the Simple Player and Paste into Word 4.0D.
The first frame pastes in.  When I try to trigger the
movie by clicking the filmstrip icon and start it with
the control bar, the index just jumps to the right and
the first frame stays put. No action. Also happens with
Word Perfect 2.0.3.  Any suggestions?

John Martellaro
Martin Marietta Energy Systems
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
615-576-6840

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From: [e-mail] (Matthew T. Russotto)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 92 19:28:33 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Martellaro) writes:
>Using Mac IIci, System 7.0.1 (tuned), virtual on.  Tried
>to Copy  a movie from the Simple Player and Paste into Word 4.0D.
>The first frame pastes in.  When I try to trigger the
>movie by clicking the filmstrip icon and start it with
>the control bar, the index just jumps to the right and
>the first frame stays put. No action. Also happens with
>Word Perfect 2.0.3.  Any suggestions?

You didn't "select all" before copying, did you?  You copied only one
frame of the movie!
- --
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From: [e-mail] (geoff george)
Subject: No current port vs. CopyBits?
Date: 9 Mar 92 10:02:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

If I leave the current port set to a no-longer-extant GrafPort, can I
have problems even if I don't do any drawing before setting it to a good
GrafPort? How about saving and restoring a bad port, bracketed around
drawing into a good port? Problems like trashing memory?

The current port can be left not set to any port by closing the current
GrafPort, apparently. Probably other ways too. I've spent two weekends
getting more intimate than I really wanted to be with MacsBug, tracking
down a problem which didn't occur under the Think C 5.0.2 debugger. By
making sure that the current port is always a good one I seem to have
removed the symptoms, but I'm not confident that the problem is fixed
since I'm not certain exactly what the problem is.

The symptoms were CopyBits not copying anything, from an offscreen
BitMap to the front window. Neither was the current port; the current
port was not any open port. (The MacsBug GrafPort template said that its
clipRgn and visRgn were not valid, plus it had nonsense values in other
fields, e.g. an empty but nonzero portBits.bounds.) I thought CopyBits
wouldn't care about the current port, as long as its portBits wasn't the
destination BitMap.

The source BitMap's baseAddr, rowBytes and bounds were good; the
baseAddr pointed to a correctly-sized chunk of memory which had nonzero
bits in it; the source rectangle was what I wanted: the entire bounds.
The destination window was good; other stuff was drawn in it; the
destination rect was inside the portRect, and the same dimensions as the
source rect; the portRect, visRgn, clipRgn and bounds were good. I used
NIL for the maskRgn. I checked all these values with MacsBug templates,
immediately before the _CopyBits trap instruction, using the pointers
that had been pushed onto the stack.

Nothing got copied. The destination rect stayed all white. Is there some
other factor affecting the behavior of CopyBits? It's possible I'd
trashed some memory earlier by having no current port.

All this on a Mac II, System 7 + System 7 Tuner, no color ports or
windows in my program, monitor set to black-and-white. More detail on
request.

I'm bamboozled. Can anyone suggest something I've overlooked, or don't
know? If not I'll have to assume a loose pointer somewhere. Ugh.
Any help muchly appreciated.

geoff
- --
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        or    [e-mail]   (personal warmth from GaTech OCS)

"Ordinary f---ing people - I hate 'em. Ordinary person spends his life avoiding tense situations; repo man spends his life getting INTO tense situations."

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Cathey)
Date: 11 Mar 92 21:09:45 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (geoff george) writes:
>The symptoms were CopyBits not copying anything, from an offscreen
>BitMap to the front window. Neither was the current port; the current
>port was not any open port. (The MacsBug GrafPort template said that its
>clipRgn and visRgn were not valid, plus it had nonsense values in other
>fields, e.g. an empty but nonzero portBits.bounds.) I thought CopyBits
>wouldn't care about the current port, as long as its portBits wasn't the
>destination BitMap.

I had much the same problem, just today.  I have a CopyBits in a loop
that mashes font records, in a program that until this week was
monochrome (and always worked just fine, even on color systems).  Once
I started issuing NewCWindow calls, though, sometimes the created font
would get screwed up.  Even though the CopyBits was between two
monochrome offscreen bitmaps, apparently being in a color environment
(6.07 IIci) is enough to screw up CopyBits.  I ended up having to force
the current port's foreground and background colors (assuming there
_is_ a current port) to black and white (with save and restore code
too).  Once I did this it started working again.  To me, this seems like
a bug.  Copybits should have recognized this as a monochrome-only
situation.  Certainly it shouldn't have been making port-based decisions
because this piece of code is entirely portless, no drawing is being
done at all.

Digression: This program emulates a foreign windowing system (ours, in
fact) by translating all calls to Mac analogs.  Its one 'sin' is that
it has to create FONT resources on the fly, so that the native Mac text
drawing can be used, and so that font changes in the foreign system
will be automatically propogated.  It finds unused font numbers (in the
IM-I scheme) and AddResource's these to its preferences file.  These
fonts are deleted from this resource file at program exit.  While IM
says you should never put fonts into a document's resource fork, I
don't really have any choice.  So far it seems to work just fine,
largely because this program does not (and never will) print.  I am
hoping that the problems alluded to by IM have either to do with font
numbering conflicts (since my numbers are dynamically chosen I will be
safe), or with caching-related problems that can occur if the resource
file were to be closed (mine isn't).  Does anyone have any comments?


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From: [e-mail] (Matthew T. Russotto)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 92 19:42:25 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (geoff george) writes:
>
>The symptoms were CopyBits not copying anything, from an offscreen
>BitMap to the front window. Neither was the current port; the current
>port was not any open port. (The MacsBug GrafPort template said that its
>clipRgn and visRgn were not valid, plus it had nonsense values in other
>fields, e.g. an empty but nonzero portBits.bounds.) I thought CopyBits
>wouldn't care about the current port, as long as its portBits wasn't the
>destination BitMap.

CopyBits uses the foreground and background colors of the current
port.  Probably uses other stuff too.



- --
Matthew T. Russotto    [e-mail]    [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Florian)
Subject: free-ware or Shair-ware Programing Language
Organization: UW-Milwaukee: Computing Services Division
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 17:53:26 GMT


    I am looking for a free ware or shair ware mac programming
    language.  I don't care if it's basic, I want to do some
    programming.

    Dose anyonw know of any?

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From: [e-mail] (Eric W. Sink)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 20:41:15 GMT

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris Florian) writes:


>    I am looking for a free ware or shair ware mac programming
>    language.  I don't care if it's basic, I want to do some
>    programming.

>    Dose anyonw know of any?

Certainly.  There are lots...

I'm typing the following list off the top of my head.  Please add or
correct as needed.

Yerk        object oriented derivative of Forth, used to be called Neon
MacOberon    successor to Modula 2, requires a Mac II
GNU CC        GNU Project C compiler, requires MPW
Pocket Forth    fast Forth implementation
Sesame C    shareware subset-of-C compiler
Harvest C    freely distributable C compiler, not complete yet
Gambit        scheme derivative?
XLisp        Lisp, runs on many platforms
M2        I know I saw a Modula 2 system somewhere...
Icon        ""
Perl        Larry Wall's replacement for most of UNIX
Elan        I have no idea what this is
J        APL derivative
Pico        What is pico ?
Pixiescheme    Probably has something to do with scheme
Quinta        Yet another oo derivative of Forth, doesn't work
Simlua        I've seen this somewhere - requires MPW

I peeked at a couple archive sites for a few of those...

- --
Eric W. Sink,  Spatial Analysis and Systems Team
USACERL, P.O. Box 9005, Champaign, IL 61826-9005
1-800-USA-CERL x449,   [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Terry Thiel)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1992 16:16:02 GMT

[e-mail] (Chris Florian) writes:


>    I am looking for a free ware or shair ware mac programming
>    language.  I don't care if it's basic, I want to do some
>    programming.
>    Dose anyonw know of any?
Try Harvest C by Eric Sink.  Its on most of the major FTP sites.
- -Terry

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From: [e-mail] (Jon W{tte)
Date: 15 Mar 92 19:12:41 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

.cso.uiuc.edu> [e-mail] (Eric W. Sink) writes:

   Pocket Forth    fast Forth implementation

Unfortunately it crashes on large displays, color displays
and/or 68040 cache machines. The author has not responded
to my query...

   Simlua        I've seen this somewhere - requires MPW

Imagine ALGOL with OO and sort-of a process concept. Simula
has been around for > 20 years, and is "OO," only noone knew
what that was back then.

There's even an application framework.

The Simula compiler for MPW is probably available from Lund
University in Sweden, where I believe it was developed.

Check with archie.
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                     - The worlds only romantic cynic -

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From: [e-mail] (Bill Pottenger)
Subject: A/UX irc client crashes on call to malloc()
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1992 21:30:53 GMT

Hello.

Mac is not my usual environment, so please bear with me.

We're running an irc client on a MacIIfx under A/UX 2.0.1, and after a key
is added to the crypt for a channel, on the first attempt to *receive* an
encrypted message, the client crashes with the following error:

Malloc failed: No child processes
Irc Aborted!

(Anyone care to interpret this... is it simply an out of memory error?)

Sending encrypted messages is no problem, strangely enough.

Not knowing anything about the mac (under A/UX) I wonder if there are hard
limits on memory that can be set per process and/or per process tree?  I
know this is possible under VMS.  On the other hand, maybe the Mac really
ran out of memory... but in that case it should have crashed on send too..hmmm.

Here's some code (the key seems to be in the functions below, which
is where the only malloc() like calls seem to appear under the given
conditions):

/*
 * crypt.c: handles some encryption of messages stuff.
 *
 * Written By Michael Sandrof
 *
 * Copyright(c) 1990
 *
 * See the COPYRIGHT file, or do a HELP IRCII COPYRIGHT
 */

#define CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE (IRCD_BUFFER_SIZE - 50)    /* Make this less than
                             * the trasmittable

static char *do_crypt(str, key, flag)
char *str,
    *key;
int flag;
{
    int in[2],
        out[2],
        c;
    char buffer[CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE + 1];
    char *ptr = null(char *),
        *encrypt_program;

    if (encrypt_program = get_string_var(ENCRYPT_PROGRAM_VAR)) {
    in[0] = in[1] = -1;
    out[0] = out[1] = -1;
    if (access(encrypt_program, X_OK)) {
        put_it("*** Unable to execute encryption program: %s", encrypt_program);
        return (null(char *));
    }
    if (!flag) {
        c = strlen(str);
        ptr = ctcp_unquote_it(str, &c);
    } else
        malloc_strcpy(&ptr, str);
    if (pipe(in) || pipe(out)) {
        put_it("*** Unable to start encryption process: %s", sys_errlist[errno]);
        if (in[0] != -1) {
        close(in[0]);
        close(in[1]);
        }
        if (out[0] != -1) {
        close(out[0]);
        close(out[1]);
        }
    }
    switch (fork()) {
        case -1:
        put_it("*** Unable to start encryption process: %s", sys_errlist[errno]);
        return (null(char *));
        case 0:
        signal(SIGINT, SIG_IGN);
        dup2(out[1], 1);
        dup2(in[0], 0);
        close(out[0]);
        close(in[1]);
        setuid(getuid());
        setgid(getgid());
        execl(encrypt_program, encrypt_program, key, NULL);
        exit(0);
        default:
        close(out[1]);
        close(in[0]);
        write(in[1], ptr, strlen(ptr));
        close(in[1]);
        c = read(out[0], buffer, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        buffer[c] = null(char);
        close(out[0]);
        break;
    }
    new_free(&ptr);
    if (flag)
        ptr = ctcp_quote_it(buffer, strlen(buffer));
    else
        malloc_strcpy(&ptr, buffer);
    } else {
    c = strlen(str);
    if (flag) {
        encrypt(str, c, key);
        ptr = ctcp_quote_it(str, c);
    } else {
        ptr = ctcp_unquote_it(str, &c);
        decrypt(ptr, c, key);
    }
    }
c
    return (ptr);
}

/*
 * crypt_msg: Executes the encryption program on the given string with the
 * given key.  If flag is true, the string is encrypted and the returned
 * string is ready to be sent over irc.  If flag is false, the string is
 * decrypted and the returned string should be readable
 */
char *crypt_msg(str, key, flag)
char *str,
    *key;
int flag;
{
    static char buffer[CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE + 1];
    char thing[6];
    char *ptr,
        *rest;
    int on = 1;

    if (flag) {
    sprintf(thing, "%cSED ", CTCP_DELIM_CHAR);
    *buffer = null(char);
    while (rest = index(str, '\005')) {
        *(rest++) = null(char);
        if (on && *str && (ptr = do_crypt(str, key, flag))) {
        strmcat(buffer, thing, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        strmcat(buffer, ptr, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        strmcat(buffer, CTCP_DELIM_STR, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        new_free(&ptr);
        } else
        strmcat(buffer, str, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        on = !on;
        str = rest;
    }
    if (on && (ptr = do_crypt(str, key, flag))) {
        strmcat(buffer, thing, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        strmcat(buffer, ptr, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        strmcat(buffer, CTCP_DELIM_STR, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        new_free(&ptr);
    } else
        strmcat(buffer, str, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
    } else {
    if (ptr = do_crypt(str, key, flag)) {
        strmcpy(buffer, ptr, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
        new_free(&ptr);
    } else
        strmcat(buffer, str, CRYPT_BUFFER_SIZE);
    }
    return (buffer);
}

Cheers, and thanks for any who are able to offer help!

Bill
ps. I'll be doing some debugging as soon as I have the complete source,
and will hopefully pin down exactly where the crash occurs.  For any
who are interested, please send me your email address and I'll follow
up on it with you.  Thank you!

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From: [e-mail] (FUZZBALL)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1992 20:34:16 GMT

In the post by [e-mail] (Bill Pottenger),
he writes:

>We're running an irc client on a MacIIfx under A/UX 2.0.1, and after a key
>is added to the crypt for a channel, on the first attempt to *receive* an
>encrypted message, the client crashes with the following error:

>Malloc failed: No child processes
>Irc Aborted!

The message "Malloc failed:" means that within the system that this was run
on, the C command malloc was either used improperly, or not enough memory was
allocated.  The assumption that it was out of memory is partially correct,
as malloc means "memory allocation".  In order to correct this, enter into
the program itself, find the malloc command and increase it to a number
substantially larger.
The program required to input into this program is probably C++.  Just find
a Computer Science major who 1)knows C code, and 2) has this program or a
variant.  Have him debug it for you.  If you can't find a CoSi major, find a
CoSi prof to debug it for you.  I suspect that this is not the only error in
your IRC program.

- - Thomas
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Gray aka FUZZBALL aka [e-mail]
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail] (Max Napolitano)
Subject: Invisible files
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1992 08:59:51 GMT



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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Stanger)
Date: 16 Mar 92 10:19:33 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Max Napolitano) writes:
>

Hey wow, an invisible posting!! :) :)

- --
See ya
                                Nigel.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: [e-mail]
University of Otago,            Phone: [phone]
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   [phone]
Splunge.

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From: [e-mail] (Ronald P. Smith)
Subject: Completion routines & A5
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1992 20:59:48 GMT

hi, I'm trying to do a Asyncronous call to PBRead.  I'm having problems
with understanding how to restore the A5 in my completion funtion though.

I understand SetCurrentA5 and all that, but what I'm having problems with
is how I can place the A5 somewhere in my ParamBlock so that my completion
function can get it.  I've read the TNs on this, and all I could find was
the fact that I could place the A5 in the ParamBlock because A0 is guaranteed
to point to the paramblock.. What I'm wondering is, where?  I don't see any
space for user fields in the ParamBlock, where should I stick the A5?

any help would be greatly appreciated.

Ron Smith ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Jon W{tte)
Date: 16 Mar 92 09:29:19 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

.cso.uiuc.edu> [e-mail] (Ronald P. Smith) writes:

   I understand SetCurrentA5 and all that, but what I'm having problems with
   is how I can place the A5 somewhere in my ParamBlock so that my completion
   function can get it.  I've read the TNs on this, and all I could find was
   the fact that I could place the A5 in the ParamBlock because A0 is
   guaranteed to point to the paramblock.. What I'm wondering is, where?
   I don't see any space for user fields in the ParamBlock, where should I
   stick the A5?

SetCurrentA5 returns the previous value of A5, and moves whatever
is stored in "CurrentA5" into A5.

SetA5 returns the previous value of A5, and moves its argument
into A5.


About the blocks, let's say you need a CInfoPBRec. Then do this:

typedef struct MyCInfoPBRec {

    CInfoPBRec    theBlock ;
    unsigned long    A5 ;

} MyCInfoPBRec ;

Then set up theBlock, stuff A5 into A5 and pass the address of
this struct. You now know that A0 will point to this struct, with
the paramBlock first, and A5 afterwards, upon entry to your
completion routine.

Simple, isn't it ?

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This signature is placed into the Public Domain by Jon W{tte ([e-mail])
                     - The worlds only romantic cynic -

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From: [e-mail] (george)
Subject: pict -> macbinary resource fork on unix
Date: 3 Mar 92 18:37:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering

I am generating pict representations of postscript files
on my unix box, and I need to place the pict image into the
resource fork of the postscript 'data' file to create
an 'eps' or 'pict with embedded postscript' file.  I can do
this using resedit, but i am seeking a faster and idiot-proof
method.

Preferably we would write a complete macbinary file on the
unix machine.  By inspection it appears that the
pict data needs to be wraped in a short header/trailer which
contains at least the pict id ( and obviously a good bit more )
Has anyone done anything similar?  Perhaps there is a collection
of c routines for doing some basic macbinary work? ( well It
doesn't hurt to ask... )

second choice would be a single mac application that would
do the job with a minimum of fuss. Currently we need one
application to open the pict, then copy/paste it into the
resource fork with resedit and set the resource id and file
type. This is a bit to involved for my users.  I suppose
here I am asking if such a utility already exists because
my macintosh programing experience is nil.

many thanks in advance.
- --
- -george            [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth Knight)
Date: 6 Mar 92 22:40:44 GMT
Organization: Instructional Technology Laboratory, University of Michigan

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Preferably we would write a complete macbinary file on the
>unix machine.  By inspection it appears that the
>pict data needs to be wraped in a short header/trailer which
>contains at least the pict id ( and obviously a good bit more )
>Has anyone done anything similar?  Perhaps there is a collection
>of c routines for doing some basic macbinary work? ( well It
>doesn't hurt to ask... )

Well, let me see what I can dig out of the files I have at hand. The
following struct defines a MacBinary header:

typedef struct {
/* MacBinary header - prepended to all MacBinary format files */
    byte zero1;
    unsigned char filename[64];  /* filename */
    unsigned char type[4];          /* file type e.g. TEXT, PICT */
    unsigned char creator[4];     /* file  creator e.g. tttx, MACA, 'MPS ' */
    byte flags;                           /* finder flags */
    byte zero2;
    byte location[6];                 /* location in folder - I think */
    byte protected;                  /* locked? */
    byte zero3;
    byte dflen[4];                    /* data fork length */
    byte rflen[4];                   /* resource fork length */
    byte cdate[4];                  /* creation date */
    byte mdate[4];                 /* last modified date */
    byte filler[29];
}    MBHDR, *MBHDRPTR, **MBHDRHNDL;

As to writing out the PICT data you should be able to simply do FSWrites
on each field of the Pict. Just make sure that you write out the proper
stuff (i.e. the actual pict data not the pointer to it).

If you just want to write a MacDraw-type file as I recall you can simply
write crud for the first 512 bytes and then write out the picture data.

Hope this helps....

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 4 Mar 1992 07:07:22 EST
From: Christopher Tate <[e-mail]>
Subject: Official Chocolate of Mac Programming

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
says:
>
>Before noon: Coke Classic
>After noon: Double Espresso
>After dinner: Double Cappucino
>For variety, to recharge the taste buds: Cranberry Juice Cocktail
>
>All of the above supplemented with Belgian dark chocolate, of course.

If you can get it (Williams-Sonoma is the only place I know of), there's
a *wonderful* French dark chocolate that has the highest cocoa content
on earth.  But it is *not* unsweetened; this is a for-real eating
chocolate, and black as pitch:

               Valhrona Carre' de Guanaca 1502

Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.

(I once preferred Tobler Extra Bittersweet, but Valhrona won me over....)

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From: [e-mail] (Samuel John Kass)
Date: 4 Mar 92 15:36:09 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 04-Mar-92 in Official Chocolate of Mac P..
user Christopher Tate@psuvm.p writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
>says:
>>
>>Before noon: Coke Classic
>>After noon: Double Espresso
>>After dinner: Double Cappucino
>>For variety, to recharge the taste buds: Cranberry Juice Cocktail
>>
>>All of the above supplemented with Belgian dark chocolate, of course.
>
>If you can get it (Williams-Sonoma is the only place I know of), there's
>a *wonderful* French dark chocolate that has the highest cocoa content
>on earth.  But it is *not* unsweetened; this is a for-real eating
>chocolate, and black as pitch:
>
>               Valhrona Carre' de Guanaca 1502
>
>Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.
>
>(I once preferred Tobler Extra Bittersweet, but Valhrona won me over....)


Hmm... I, myself, get by on M+M's.  They're plentiful, and of course, if
you don't like things melting in your hands...

By the way, for the drink, I have to say that I prefer water, as well.

    --Sam

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From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Steele)
Date: 4 Mar 92 16:54:48 GMT
Organization: National Geophyical Data Center, Boulder, Colorado

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Samuel John Kass) writes:
>On 04-Mar-92 in Official Chocolate of Mac P..
>user Christopher Tate@psuvm.p writes:
>
>Hmm... I, myself, get by on M+M's.  They're plentiful, and of course, if
>you don't like things melting in your hands...

And you can sort them by color during long MPW builds (is there a thing
as a _short_ MPW build.

- -Mark Steele

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From: [e-mail] (Doug Wade)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:36:06 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Christopher Tate <[e-mail]> writes:
%In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
%says:
%>
%>Before noon: Coke Classic
%>After noon: Double Espresso
%>After dinner: Double Cappucino
%>For variety, to recharge the taste buds: Cranberry Juice Cocktail
%>
%>All of the above supplemented with Belgian dark chocolate, of course.
%
%If you can get it (Williams-Sonoma is the only place I know of), there's
%a *wonderful* French dark chocolate that has the highest cocoa content
%on earth.  But it is *not* unsweetened; this is a for-real eating
%chocolate, and black as pitch:
%
%               Valhrona Carre' de Guanaca 1502
%
%Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.
%
%(I once preferred Tobler Extra Bittersweet, but Valhrona won me over....)
%
[sig removed for brevity]

    That is 70% chocolate solids.  3 1/8 oz for $10 at W-S.  But out of
the country you can get at least 75%.  If anybody's near a Trader Joe's (I
don't know how widespread the chain is) they have a half kilo of good 61%
for $2.39 US.  It's not the same, but still pretty darn good and relatively
cheap...


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From: [e-mail] (Norman Graham)
Date: 4 Mar 92 17:50:16 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University

In article <[e-mail]> Christopher Tate <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>If you can get it (Williams-Sonoma is the only place I know of), there's
>a *wonderful* French dark chocolate that has the highest cocoa content
>on earth.  But it is *not* unsweetened; this is a for-real eating
>chocolate, and black as pitch:
>
>               Valhrona Carre' de Guanaca 1502
>
>Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.

Williams-Sonoma also sells some dark chocolate covered espresso beans
that I'm fond of.

Ob. Who will be writing the software for Apple's new PDA?
- --
Norman Graham

<[e-mail]>                 Standard Disclaimer Applies
{cbosgd,rutgers}!okstate!norman

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From: [e-mail] (Ross Brown)
Date: 4 Mar 92 22:14:12 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Samuel
John Kass) writes:
>Hmm... I, myself, get by on M+M's.  They're plentiful, and of course, if
>you don't like things melting in your hands...

"The milk chocolate melts in your maw, not in your paw."

...as it were.

Ross Brown
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
[e-mail]
Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of BNR.

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From: [e-mail] (Jean-Michel Male)
Date: 5 Mar 92 13:14:19 GMT
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Christopher Tate) writes:
C.Tate|>         In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
C.Tate|>         says:

C.Tate|>         If you can get it (Williams-Sonoma is the only place I know of), there's
C.Tate|>         a *wonderful* French dark chocolate that has the highest cocoa content
C.Tate|>         on earth.  But it is *not* unsweetened; this is a for-real eating
C.Tate|>         chocolate, and black as pitch:

C.Tate|>                        Valhrona Carre' de Guanaca 1502

C.Tate|>         Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.


         I DO agree at all.

         This is a proof that even in the country of "french dressing",
         there exist that can appreciate very good chocolate.

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    Jean-Michel MALE'        \\\\\
                     - -
    INRIA, Projet SINUS,          <  )
    Centre de Sophia-Antipolis      \/
    06565 Valbonne (FRANCE)

    Email: [e-mail]



(Mort aux vaches !)

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From: [e-mail] (Good Witch of the Silicon Forest)
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 21:34:00 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Samuel John Kass) writes...
>On 04-Mar-92 in Official Chocolate of Mac P..
>user Christopher Tate@psuvm.p writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
>>says:
>>>
>>>Before noon: Coke Classic
>>>After noon: Double Espresso
>>>After dinner: Double Cappucino
>>>For variety, to recharge the taste buds: Cranberry Juice Cocktail
>>>
>>>All of the above supplemented with Belgian dark chocolate, of course.
>>
>>If you can get it (Williams-Sonoma is the only place I know of), there's
>>a *wonderful* French dark chocolate that has the highest cocoa content
>>on earth.  But it is *not* unsweetened; this is a for-real eating
>>chocolate, and black as pitch:
>>
>>               Valhrona Carre' de Guanaca 1502
>>
>>Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.
>>
>>(I once preferred Tobler Extra Bittersweet, but Valhrona won me over....)
>
>
>Hmm... I, myself, get by on M+M's.  They're plentiful, and of course, if
>you don't like things melting in your hands...
>

    Definately..or on your keyboard...but only the ones with peanuts..

    Tina Marie
    [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Amanda Walker)
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 92 21:12:30 GMT

Christopher Tate <[e-mail]> writes:
> Comes in little tins of individually-wrapped squares, or by the kilo.

Valhrona is good stuff, but my favorite is still Cote D'Or from Belgium.


Amanda Walker                              [e-mail]
Visix Software Inc.                    ...!uupsi!visix.com!amanda
- --
"The problem with X is that it's overadequate"    --Dennis Ritchie

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From: [e-mail] (Arno Gourdol)
Date: 6 Mar 92 14:03:52 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France


The chocolate of choice for real chocolate lovers is Valrhona
(note the spelling, this from the Rhone river) where the maker is
located (and not the hrone river) :-) (I like nit-picking).

Arno,


- --
Arno Gourdol.  <[e-mail]>
Minds, like parachutes, only function when open.

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From: [e-mail] (Kent Sandvik)
Date: 8 Mar 92 01:45:13 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

..Marabou, Marabou... I guess I have to call my wife's cousins in Sweden
and ask them to send an emergency package ASAP.

Cheers,
Kent

- --
Kent Sandvik - Apple DTS  - Dynamic Language Evangelist
[e-mail]
All opinions expressed are my own, and not related to any company or
organization.
Happy, happy, joy, joy!

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From: [e-mail] (Juri Munkki)
Date: 11 Mar 92 20:54:20 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>...Marabou, Marabou... I guess I have to call my wife's cousins in Sweden
>and ask them to send an emergency package ASAP.

Dangerously addictive substance... Which flavor do you prefer? I like
the milk chocolate. It seems to me that most others here prefer really
dark chocolates. Marabou chocolates tend to be the mildest that I have
ever tasted.

   ____________________________________________________________________________
  / Juri Munkki        /  Helsinki University of Technology   /  Wind  / Project /
 / [e-mail]  /  Computing Center Macintosh Support  /  Surf  / Arashi  /
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: [e-mail] (Steven Ritter)
Subject: File Labels
Date: 5 Mar 92 15:30:30 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

How can you find a file's label (the things nobody uses in System 7
Finder)?  I couldn't find anything about this in IM VI.

Steve

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From: [e-mail] (Ross Brown)
Date: 5 Mar 92 21:16:01 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steven
Ritter) writes:
>How can you find a file's label (the things nobody uses in System 7
>Finder)?  I couldn't find anything about this in IM VI.

The label ID is in bits 1 to 3 of the fdFlags field in the FInfo structure.
See Technical Note 306.  The colors associated with the labels are in the
System file in 'RGB ' resources numbered -16392, ..., -16385.  The names are in
'lstr' resources with the same numbers.  Note that the Finder's Labels menu
shows label #7 first, and label #1 last.  Label value 0 represents "no label".

Ross Brown
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
[e-mail]
Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of BNR.

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From: [e-mail]
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 92 20:38:44 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steven Ritter) writes:
>How can you find a file's label (the things nobody uses in System 7
>Finder)?  I couldn't find anything about this in IM VI.
>
    Well the information (the index (0-7) of the label) is stored in
the top 3 bits of the FinderFlags word which you can get with standard File
Manager calls.

    However that only gives you a number - not a name or a color!  That
information is only obtainable via undocumented resources or undocumented
toolbox calls.


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- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol          Internet: [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology   AppleLink: MACgician
Aladdin Systems, inc.          GEnie:     MACgician

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From: [e-mail] (Denis Bohm)
Subject: Is there X11, NFS, TCP for the MacOS?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 92 16:55:57 GMT

I would like to port a C++ application to the Mac with the least amount
of work to get it up and running.  The application uses interviews which
uses X11R4, and our own broadcast message server which uses INET domain
sockets.  So I am looking for X11R4 for the mac with include files that
can be used from C++ so that I can build InterViews.  And some
communication software with unix like socket includes.  Does anyone know
of any products like these (or anything similar)?
- --
Denis Bohm ([e-mail] -or- [e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Lanett)
Date: 5 Mar 92 19:17:51 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

[e-mail] (Denis Bohm) writes:

>I would like to port a C++ application to the Mac with the least amount
>of work to get it up and running.  The application uses interviews which
>uses X11R4, and our own broadcast message server which uses INET domain
>sockets.  So I am looking for X11R4 for the mac with include files that
>can be used from C++ so that I can build InterViews.  And some
>communication software with unix like socket includes.  Does anyone know
>of any products like these (or anything similar)?

X11: There's a server (MacX), but no client support.
TCP: MacTCP is available from APDA, a few socket libraries are around.*
InterViews: No port, but I've heard that it was modeled after MacApp 1 or 2,
so you could move to that.
C++: MPW Shell, C, and C++, again from APDA.

*including one from us, at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in ~/unsupported.
- --
Mark Lanett                                                   [e-mail]
Software Tools Group, NCSA, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

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From: [e-mail] (Milt Roselinsky)
Date: 11 Mar 92 21:37:35 GMT
Organization: "Tenon Intersystems"

[e-mail] (Denis Bohm) writes:
: I would like to port a C++ application to the Mac with the least amount
: of work to get it up and running.  The application uses interviews which
: uses X11R4, and our own broadcast message server which uses INET domain
: sockets.  So I am looking for X11R4 for the mac with include files that
: can be used from C++ so that I can build InterViews.  And some
: communication software with unix like socket includes.  Does anyone know
: of any products like these (or anything similar)?
MachTen (a full BSD4.3 UNIX that runs as a Mac application) provides
the gnu C compiler and X11R4 libraries, standard X clients,
NFS, RPC and socket libraries....

For more info, send questions to [e-mail]

Milt Roselinsky            [e-mail]
Tenon Intersystems        [phone]
1123 Chapala St. Santa Barbara, Ca. 93101

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